Friday, June 17, 2011

Juni: Follow up post from a Question... AWESOME!

Reply from member: 
Juni, while I thank you for all the research and time you put into this but now am a little confused .

If this entire process is held up by a few positions and the country is suffering and people even within the government are being killed not to mention the average person? After all the bad things they have going and they still don't seem to have a sense of urgency, what is really going to change? They just seem always to push things back until "next week"? if this is really the hold up, I almost find this to be negative because everybody is going to loose and they could keep pushing this back, they would be lucky to see any improvement months from now? :o 

Am I missing something?

Juni Reply:
 know how you feel, b4dinar. However, look at the proof about what the remaining issue is: It really is down to just naming the security ministers and creating the NCSP and how much power it will have. This is the nitty gritty of all that remains, and admittedly, the articles from back in the very beginning of this said this would be the main issue. It's crunch time.... the deadline is right on their backs, and unless they want their DFI account tied up longer, they know they have to get this done.

Someone else asked whether I believe it could go past June 30th.

I sincerely believe that all the pressure in the world-- and I mean the ones really behind the scenes applying it --want this done by the deadline of June 30th. Iraq is having a great deal of pressure applied to them to meet this deadline. Remember the article that came out recently concerning them saying the GOI is having difficulty because (they say) the US has "rushed" them in the formation of the government? See: http://peoplesdinar....ing-difficulty/ I believe that is a clear indicator that the ones pulling the strings ARE pushing them. They want Iraq to be seen as a success story in the middle east so everyone can get a little fame and glory in this middle east 'democracy experiment' (for just one reason). Another subtle sign of this being true is that they, the US and the UN, overlooked the little technical issue concerning the truly completed GOI (with these ministries filled) because I believe they planned all along for them to be out of majority of the sanctions by end of 2010 to meet a certain time frame they have in mind. I'm not sure anyone remembers Lindsey Williams, but he has insider contacts and his intel about the PTB has proven CONSISTENTLY TRUE every time. At any rate, he shared back in October that there would be a "middle east crisis" within the next 6 months and the price of a barrel of oil would begin to inch upward and eventually will reach around $150 per barrel (I believe at the time it was around $80 per barrel). Well, he was correct about that because the middle east revolutions began Jan. 29th or so and spread from there to the result we have today: Egypt's president overthrown, and America in another undeclared war of sorts in Libya (and recall the first thing done in Libya by these "spontaneous revolutionaries?" They had the forethought set up a central bank! Yes, you read that right-- These street people with little training were of the mind in the midst of fighting to go ahead and take over Libya's wealth of gold, and their central bank, and set up one that answers to the PTB).

This is why, imho, Iraq was allowed to come out of all the sanctions back in December, even though they were not a technically complete GOI....Because there are other time frames and agendas that depend on it.

Having said that, I believe their time frame, those pulling the strings, is June 30th. It is written in the UN Resolution still in effect the explicit statement that they will NOT ask for another extension. That tells me what the PTB timeframe is.

HOWEVER....

It's Iraq! :blink:

They are unpredictable. Everyone knows that. The PTB believe that by controlling their ultimate destiny (getting out of Ch. VII and releasing the DFI fund from UN restrictions), that they can control and pressure them into getting it done.

There are three possible outcomes that I see happening.

1) The pressure is enough and the finish the GOI (NCSP created, security ministries named, etc.), and they are given the blessing of the UN ....On June 30th the last vestige of UN control over Iraq expires and they are allowed to tap the use of their monies unrestricted.

2) The pressure is only enough to forge a "temporary" solution; i.e., all parties agree to proxies being named in the ministry positions so that they comply with a 'technical' interpretation of a 'representative' government that includes all key groups. They are given the blessing of the UN....On June 30th the last vestige of UN control over Iraq expires and they are allowed to tap the use of their monies unrestricted. After the deadline, they begin to hammer out the PROPER way of filling the positions AND the issues regarding formation of the NCSP and its powers.

or,

3) The pressure is not enough to finish the GOI or forge a "temporary" solution. The UN reluctantly gives them a three month extension to September 30th, and we're on this train a bit longer. I believe *IF* there is an extension, it will only be 3 months because security has to be fully in place before the troops pull out of Iraq.